But to combine the two? By Skydiving Videos Epic Mr. Bill + Downplane Stunt. you are talking "2out", we are talking downplane (miroir). Posted by 8 days ago. Take the 4 toggles and pull them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPfNp8vbEo&feature=related The comments on utube are what they are, this seems to me to have stupid written all over it, Hi Bob There is always someone that will come up with something different especially with Utube and canopies & women. Even if you are in full control as the mentor and the event goes off smoothly, what are you also teaching that guy about what he can and can't do? c     h     u     t     e     Powered by Invision Community. Maybe its not such a bad idea to strap the gopro and WS on a new A license as long as they have an awesome instructor. The impact injuries were said to be hitting a brick wall between 60 - 80 or so MPH based on the injuries. It was a good downplane, but I do think 39th jump is a bit early to be doing one, although his mentor obiviously(hopefully) had a bit of CRW experience. (NO DAA). Blazin’ Downplane! Eleven people are dead after a small plane crashed near an airfield in Hawaii and erupted into flames, authorities said. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The King Air twin-engine plane went down near … ( I don't ). × YewToob Description on video My first CRW jump and downplane on jump 39. I think the video is on my computer at the DZ. Close.   You cannot paste images directly. ", "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport.". side-by-side with no input from the jumper. The French Federation has a theory about that. The French Federation has a theory about that. c     o     m, pulling the reserve after a pilot chute in tow and the main comes out, pulling the main above AAD activation altitude, pulling the reserve if a jumper knows he is at or below the AAD activation altitude. She maintained she was unable to cuyaway because her right arm was stuck, so she just pulled silver. By You can post now and register later. If I ever find myself in a two out down plane, I'll be better equipped to deal with it because I've been there, done that. Granted, those are just recommendations and not BSRs what not, but so are jump numbers for cameras and wingsuits. I wouldn't do a full-blown stall but max flare couldn't make it worse.. @ Ken Saylor: I misspoke: it was an AR2 mounted on the reserve of an MC4 system. Take the 4 toggles and pull them. Can you land a two_out in down_plane configuration safely? Clear editor.   You cannot paste images directly. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. PD-Rs, Tempos, Ravens! What are my options if I ever end up in a two out, downplane configuration? This is one of those ones that doesn't need armchair quarterbacking - particularly when the video was posted here to deliberately get a rise. She also said she was never taught how to deal with a 2out. ALL sizes from 120 to 250 sq ft, GREAT condition, LOW cost world air-shipping, BEST DEAL !!! There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. Can you land a two_out in down_plane configuration safely? Afterwards, she refused to go to the hospital right away, said her hip was just sore. Posted by Andrew R. 11 Jul. The FF2 is a main-mounted AAD.   Pasted as rich text. actually the first one was hilarious. You'll learn/experience how to move canopies around from bi-plane to side-by-side, side-by-side to down plane, and you can even work from down plane to side-by side. This incident was a combination of a low pull and a high AR2 fire (which were VERY common early on). I have video somewhere of one of my former SL students (a fitness instructor so quite healthy and limber) inducing and then landing a downplane. This is The @tigers_army_parachute_team via Instagram. format, February 4, 2013 in Safety and Training. I downplaned a triathlon 99 and a lightning 113. We Got it! r/SkyDiving: A subreddit for those interested in Skydiving and BASE jumping. The descent rate under a downplane is very high. If you ever see CRW Dawgs releasing from them, the canopies can't fly apart fast enough. a proper downplane is the most stable configuration. Upload or insert images from URL. This is just awesome. Wouldn't the stalled canopy run the risk of entanglement with the flying canopy? My blog with the skydiving duck cartoons. Having said that, it was prolly a one off, and he will now start with slower steps until he learns what he needs to know. A LOT. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. She landed like that, one toggle fully down for a 'flare'. Like any discipline, CRW introduces a lot of new variables, both in equipment and procedures, as well as the ability to stay cool under sometimes extreme stress, so this was probably not the best example to be setting for a low time jumper, and other low time jumpers watching....pushing the envelope is not a practise they should take on board as something that is OK. His screams showed he was fully amping out at that point, had he ended up a tad lower and downwind it might not have been so good. This was during the World POPS Meet 2012 @ Teuge NL, a good number of people saw her landing. Ouch! By the time I saw her, she had a stable-looking side by side. For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.   Your previous content has been restored. None........500 ft to the ground....feet locked together....who will let go first....now at 250 ft......I hope you let go................is that in the new guy's mind ? I'm of the belief that chopping a downplane leaves little chance for any kind of canopy entanglements. use … He certainly knows what ground rush is now!. I would defer to people with more knowledge than I, but why would you add a chaotic event ( canopy stall) to an unstable environment? I call BS on that one. Have you ever done a Mr. Bill? With Tenor, maker of GIF Keyboard, add popular Skydive animated GIFs to your conversations. Oh we had a guy crash/landing a downplane a couple of years ago. Display as a link instead, × I still remember them pulling the white sheet over my fellow jumper after I laid on his canopy so they could land the helicopter. If that is what you think is safe......good luck mate. P.S. As stated up thread, get some CRW experience!!! In terms of CRW this seems like a high break off for him If I was going to send anyone to a mentor to get Downplane training I would have them find Catfish since he has about the most experience anywhere on downplanes. I'm of the belief that chopping a downplane leaves little chance for any kind of canopy entanglements. "For you see, an airplane is an airplane. t     o     r     y     You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky), the second video is beyond nuts! Ask any CRW dog about doing downplanes. the main was flying stable enough surprisingly, I would have left well enough alone myself. When she couldn't undo the twists, she grabbed a toggle with her free hand and just PULLED, thereby inducing the downplane (this is all on video). But I might be wrong. Down Plane A downplane occurs when two ramair parachutes are inflated simultaneously and both fly towards the ground. JAVELIN ODYSSEY J3K / SABRE 2 (170) / PD160 - ONLY 160 JUMPS !!!!!!! This can be done by: © Copyright 2001-2003 by ParachuteHistory.com, P     a     r     a     it would make the trailing edges go together, and have your canopies act as a big "round". I suspect that that descent rate would be slower than a drag plane. ... Let's talk about two out - downplane. Upload or insert images from URL. Take a look in your FFP manuals. She opened her main after the briefed 10 second delay, while still stable on her back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPfNp8vbEo&feature=related The comments on utube are what they are, for someone with 39 jumps, this seems to me to have stupid written all over it. Its Catfish as the mentor. Days later the autopsy report showed the jumper died 5 different ways - meaning 5 independent injuries, each causing his death. There are several skydiving disciplines that happen under canopy including Canopy Formation. The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others! The point of the story was that we were fascinated to see this guy get up and walk away from it. PD-Rs, Tempos, Ravens! This configuration would suggest a cutaway. Landing a Down Plane is a life altering incident. Kirk's Picture Catalog -> Skydiving Pictures -> CRW Pictures -> Downplane Pictures Picture Description Date/Time EXIF Data; 200x211 3 kb: Ï might be there next weekend but not this weekend. If the reserve was trailing and didn't come out of its freebag until 800 feet, that tells me that the main canopy was the primary canopy for the majority of his flight. I wondered, "did they do everything they could?" Visit Today! Doing a Mr. Bill can be a good time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPfNp8vbEo&feature=related. A landing area is a landing area. She landed sideways, presumably mostly on her hip. reserve opened in a side-by-side witha couple linetwists, which is why she was kicking so much under canopy. It still seems better to try to turn one canopy sharply to break the downplane towards a side by side. The most common ways jumpers end up in this dreaded scenario are: pulling the main when the AAD fires What altitude is "too late to cutaway from a downplane"? She landed like that. Display as a link instead, × I worked at USAJFKSWC though every mode that that POS was configured for. In most cases, what started out as a downplane quickly evolved into a It was a good downplane, but I do think 39th jump is a bit early to be doing one, although his mentor obiviously(hopefully) had a bit of CRW experience. would you send them to him with 39 jumps and on their first CRW jump for such a thing? Share the best GIFs now >>>   Pasted as rich text. Safely, meh, alive, yes. didnt have the slightest problem staying with me when both sets of brakes were stowed. × There is no replacement for experience. She later said, Hey Saskia you told me to leave a side-by-side pretty much alone or else it might downplane, turns out you were right! You can post now and register later. Powered by Invision Community. I have heard ( many years ago that one was landed without too much damage ). Paste as plain text instead, × . H     i     s     skydive mr bill downplane. As stated up thread, get some CRW experience!!! Paste as plain text instead, × I'm with Top on this one. Landing a downplane will usually result in severe injuries or death. Mark Gregory and I do a downplane. The main would usually still have line twists in the side by side. The most common ways jumpers end up in this dreaded scenario are: A study done by Performance Designs showed that downplanes happened when the main bag tumbled while deploying, creating line twists on the main. × Landing a Down Plane is a life altering incident.   Your link has been automatically embedded. As the reserve was launching, the main finished doing its thing, so there was no longer sufficient speed for the reserve to finish its deployment (until 800 feet). Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. I call BS on that one. If you ever see CRW Dawgs releasing from them, the canopies can't fly apart fast enough. The canopies started turning slowly while downplaning. She flew that for a while, then she started kicking. As I heard from the JM, she exited very stable on her back for her first freefall. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Jumpers exit the aircraft, deploy their parachutes and create formations by docking on …